On this page you will find interviews with John Putignano. As of April 13, 2022 there are a total of two interviews.

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So what can we expect from Black Lodge Laboratory in the future?

Well I’m in the writing and conceptualization phase of the next release but it will include the use of two new toys. A Korg Volcabass and a Korg Volcabeats will be used on many of the new songs.

As of now I am looking to record an EP consisting of four tracks, with a total length time of 20 minutes. I will release each track as it’s completed on Bandcamp.

John Putignano circa 2022

Will there be any vocals?

I may record some spoken word that I have written on a track but no there won’t be vocals like during the industrial era of BLL

When can we expect to hear new music?

I only record when inspiration hits so honestly there’s no telling but I hope to start in the spring and finish by the fall. Depending on my level of inspiration the whole thing could take anywhere from a day to a few months to complete.

What’s going to be the title?

It’s “The Death of Cosmic Order”. Here is the new album artwork.

I hear you are looking for collaborators

Yes. It will be a six track EP split (3 songs from each artist) and will be available for free on band camp. So spread the word, I’m looking for other crazy acts

You did a cover of Cake and Sodomy by Marilyn Manson. Are you concerned about this cover considering what crimes Manson has been accused of?

Manson is a scumbag. He was a huge influence on my music but the man belongs in prison. That said I am ok with the cover because it’s an underground free recording and so Manson doesn’t get a dime for my bootleg. Besides, it’s my version of the song rather than a straight cover. With that said fuck you Marilyn Manson.

Cover art to 2005-2022 Sampler

What do you suggest for a new listener to your music

I suggest starting with the 2005-2022 Sampler which can be found in the “Free Music” section of this website.

John Putignano circa 2003

Anything else you’d like to say

Show your support by sharing BLL with anyone who’s into weird music. My music is free and always will be, so my fanbase grows as the result of word of mouth exposure. So I ask you to spread the word.


John Putignano circa 2006

How did BLL begin

In the year 2000 I started to make electronic music. The project had undergone many name changes, notably The Tryptamine Experience, Entheogenic Laboratory and around 2012 I started using the name BLL. The earliest work has been sadly lost but in all honesty, it wasn’t very good to anyone except myself. One time I recorded a techno mix of a forty-minute Charles Manson interview which was at one time owned by Seth Putnam of Anal Cunt, who is said to have loved it.

I was in high school when I began this project but for periods here and there I put it on the back burner for other music and non-music projects. Recently I decided to bring it back.

Cover art to The Original Drug Child

Tell us about the growth of the music over the years

Well it was very experimental at first and got the attention of a local DJ Christopher who remixed some of my work and I had also worked with Sebi the Explorer in my early twenties (circa 2003-2004). This is when I took the name The Tryptamine Experience. I really began to experiment with my style and bring in other elements such as dark ambient, IDM, drum & bass and industrial around 2005. I did a split with a Providence duo called 187 Love on myspace. Around 2006 or 2007 I changed the name to Entheogenic Laboratory.

Under this name I relocated to NC from RI and began experimenting more. Around 20012 I changed the name to Black Lodge Laboratory, although it was a side project at first but within months the two merged.

Around 2015-2016 I began experimenting with industrial music, adding my own vocals. I did several releases, the most important of which was 2016’s Goddamn America. I plan on re-releasing this EP soon for free and it contains eight tracks, one of which was a Marilyn Manson cover of Cake and Sodomy. I made music until about 2016 or so and took a hiatus to focus on my writing.

In 2021 I began recording music again, this time without vocals and focusing more on dark ambience, IDM and drum & bass. I had originally released three EP’s; Fetus, Mummy, and Cephalopod under my name, John Putignano but in early 2022 I decided to revert to the name Black Lodge Laboratory.

Richard D. James of Aphex Twin

Who were your influences?

Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, U-ziq, KMFDM, Ministry, NIN to name a few.

So, tell us about your releases

Well Bedlam was released for free through Bandcamp and I plan on releasing two albums of old work. The Original Drug Child has songs from 2007-2015. Goddamn America is a re-release of the 2016 industrial EP. Some songs were removed because I just didn’t like them. As of this interview it may or may not be posted already. Finally I am setting to record a new EP in the spring/summer of 2022 which may have vocals, I haven’t decided yet. Not singing vocals, maybe some of my poetry.

Does BLL have a live presence?

It never was meant to be a live project but that’s not to say I haven’t tried. In NC I brought on a guitarist and attempted to DJ/sing for a live show in Lenoir but the whole thing was a mess, and I was working 80 hours a week at the time as a correctional officer at a maximum security prison. Behavior clause prevented me from continuing with BLL live and the guitarist went on to record a black project with me, Qayinleamas, before departing to focus on his career.

Meth was the drug of choice

Drugs are a big part of your music. Is this from personal experience?

I used to be a bad drug addict. I experimented all my life with all sorts of psychedelic drugs but from say 2012-2019 I had struggled with addiction to meth, crack cocaine, and oxycodone pills. It wasn’t until I divorced my wife (drugs were a big part of us splitting up) and moved back up north that I got clean.

Drugs were an important part of my life. I made a lot of mistakes, hurt a lot of people I love and nearly killed myself as I got caught up in the selling drugs to afford my habit. I was doing about a gram a day of meth, five Percocet 10mg and when I bought crack, I’d spend up to three hundred dollars a night, depending who would front me when the cash ran out. Then I spent the next day trying to get high and pay back dealers. It was a mess. I feel like the drugs were an important part of my life and although they contributed a lot to my creativity, they ultimately proved to be my downfall. A lot of songs on Goddamn America are drug related. The song Clear is about meth use.

Did you use drugs when working at the prison?

Oddly enough you would be shocked just how many officers have drug problems. Meth, Percocet, Adderall, Xanax its all over the prison. I knew guys who snorted meth in the bathrooms, and I sold Adderall, valium and Percocet to many officers. Today I just drink a little, smoke cannabis and do the occasional psychedelic. I realize now that my creativity didn’t come from drugs, in fact they had a negative effect eventually.

In closing what would you like to say?

Visit my website or…both work. Check back often because I got some projects planned and will soon be incorporating photography into my work. Thanks for reading and listening.

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